Comments on: Would you buy a locked down laptop? http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/ Just another student of the web Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:57:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Michael Thaler http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Michael Thaler Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:30:27 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-54 Surely you can elaborate on that? I don't have to mod you, do I? :-P Surely you can elaborate on that? I don't have to mod you, do I? :-P

]]> By: Michael Thaler http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Michael Thaler Sun, 04 Apr 2010 20:56:56 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-53 Maybe, but gaming consoles aren't marketed as general purpose machines--they're marketed as machines for gaming. Perhaps you could argue that that's changing now that consoles can do much more than they could in previous generations (and let's face it, Sony isn't helping things by removing the ability to install other OSes), but I don't think there's a precedent for platform openness in the console market like there is in the tablet market.<br><br>I like your point, though, about a lot of other devices that address those concerns. It does seem unlikely that Android would ever close down, given that one of its main selling points is its openness (with all the drawbacks that entails), and we're already seeing Android tablets being released. Maybe, but gaming consoles aren't marketed as general purpose machines–they're marketed as machines for gaming. Perhaps you could argue that that's changing now that consoles can do much more than they could in previous generations (and let's face it, Sony isn't helping things by removing the ability to install other OSes), but I don't think there's a precedent for platform openness in the console market like there is in the tablet market.

I like your point, though, about a lot of other devices that address those concerns. It does seem unlikely that Android would ever close down, given that one of its main selling points is its openness (with all the drawbacks that entails), and we're already seeing Android tablets being released.

]]> By: Michael Thaler http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Michael Thaler Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:30:27 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-36 Surely you can elaborate on that? I don't have to mod you, do I? :-P Surely you can elaborate on that? I don't have to mod you, do I? :-P

]]> By: Michael Thaler http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Michael Thaler Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:56:56 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-35 Maybe, but gaming consoles aren't marketed as general purpose machines--they're marketed as machines for gaming. Perhaps you could argue that that's changing now that consoles can do much more than they could in previous generations (and let's face it, Sony isn't helping things by removing the ability to install other OSes), but I don't think there's a precedent for platform openness in the console market like there is in the tablet market.<br><br>I like your point, though, about a lot of other devices that address those concerns. It does seem unlikely that Android would ever close down, given that one of its main selling points is its openness (with all the drawbacks that entails), and we're already seeing Android tablets being released. Maybe, but gaming consoles aren't marketed as general purpose machines–they're marketed as machines for gaming. Perhaps you could argue that that's changing now that consoles can do much more than they could in previous generations (and let's face it, Sony isn't helping things by removing the ability to install other OSes), but I don't think there's a precedent for platform openness in the console market like there is in the tablet market.

I like your point, though, about a lot of other devices that address those concerns. It does seem unlikely that Android would ever close down, given that one of its main selling points is its openness (with all the drawbacks that entails), and we're already seeing Android tablets being released.

]]> By: Mark Nutter http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Mark Nutter Sun, 04 Apr 2010 06:33:12 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-34 The only precedent apple is setting here is a really nice tablet computer, the best to date in fact. Provided it sells well ( which I think it will) it should inspire a bevy of competing products, just like the iPhone, many of which will address a lot of the concerns you are expressing here. I have read far too many doom and gloom posts about this disturbing new era Apple is apparently ushering in. Take a look at the console gaming market. It's just as closed as the iPad when compared to the PC gaming market but I don't here geeks ranting about the death of gaming freedom and openness. The only precedent apple is setting here is a really nice tablet computer, the best to date in fact. Provided it sells well ( which I think it will) it should inspire a bevy of competing products, just like the iPhone, many of which will address a lot of the concerns you are expressing here. I have read far too many doom and gloom posts about this disturbing new era Apple is apparently ushering in. Take a look at the console gaming market. It's just as closed as the iPad when compared to the PC gaming market but I don't here geeks ranting about the death of gaming freedom and openness.

]]> By: Thomas http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Thomas Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:38:45 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-33 You, sir, are an idiot. You, sir, are an idiot.

]]> By: iPad Forums http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-32 iPad Forums Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:38:20 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-32 I agree with you that the achilles heal on the iPad is the closed platform. However, if they continue to sell as many units (iPods, iPhones and iPads) as they do now, they have no REASON to open it up.<br><br>If some competition comes along and scares them, they will. I think Android has that capability but only time will tell. It's off to a good start so far though. I agree with you that the achilles heal on the iPad is the closed platform. However, if they continue to sell as many units (iPods, iPhones and iPads) as they do now, they have no REASON to open it up.

If some competition comes along and scares them, they will. I think Android has that capability but only time will tell. It's off to a good start so far though.

]]> By: Scott S. McCoy http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/2010/04/03/apple-locked-down-lapto/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Scott S. McCoy Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:09:05 +0000 http://perpetualstudent.net/blog/?p=126#comment-31 If only apple would open their eyes and see the forest for the trees. They absolutely are likely to do such a thing, especially after a few more rounds of wide-spread acceptance of their mobile devices recruit an even larger customer base for their personal computing products. But to offer the sort of quality we're talking about, along with a robust package management solution, they don't have to take a draconian approach. They can accomplish this by taking an open approach, and borrowing from open source software as an example. Although I know many non-opensource users refuse to accept open source as providing viable models this is one exception which should not only be clear as day but blatantly obvious to Ubuntu users: the multi-repository system with a blessed package repository.<br><br>To break that down into lay-terms, it means simply that Apple could create a package repository of software which is sanctioned, authorized, and blessed by apple (for a fee) and still allow the addition of third party repositories which do not require apples blessing — which users add at their own risk. The Ubuntu Linux distribution does this today, clearly distinguishing between software titles supported by Canonical (the company that distributes Ubuntu) and those which are not. It's not difficult, and it has the possibility of increasing the ubiquity of the apple brand. However; Apple seems determined to take the hard road. If only apple would open their eyes and see the forest for the trees. They absolutely are likely to do such a thing, especially after a few more rounds of wide-spread acceptance of their mobile devices recruit an even larger customer base for their personal computing products. But to offer the sort of quality we're talking about, along with a robust package management solution, they don't have to take a draconian approach. They can accomplish this by taking an open approach, and borrowing from open source software as an example. Although I know many non-opensource users refuse to accept open source as providing viable models this is one exception which should not only be clear as day but blatantly obvious to Ubuntu users: the multi-repository system with a blessed package repository.

To break that down into lay-terms, it means simply that Apple could create a package repository of software which is sanctioned, authorized, and blessed by apple (for a fee) and still allow the addition of third party repositories which do not require apples blessing — which users add at their own risk. The Ubuntu Linux distribution does this today, clearly distinguishing between software titles supported by Canonical (the company that distributes Ubuntu) and those which are not. It's not difficult, and it has the possibility of increasing the ubiquity of the apple brand. However; Apple seems determined to take the hard road.

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